Comments on: TESS Article: Resisting the pressure to “dae sumthin” http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/ "We learn from our experience.....if we reflect upon our experience" John Dewey Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:56:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Don Ledingham http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11148 Don Ledingham Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:06:26 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11148 Jackie I really appreciate your comments - sorry I don't always find the time to reply. Hi Helen Thanks for dropping in. What are practice based programmes? Andrea I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. Alastair How's retirement? Thanks for the comment. I think there's a differmec between "hands-on managment" and "face-to-face management" - hands-on disempowers. Jackie

I really appreciate your comments - sorry I don’t always find the time to reply.

Hi Helen

Thanks for dropping in. What are practice based programmes?

Andrea

I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that way.

Alastair

How’s retirement? Thanks for the comment. I think there’s a differmec between “hands-on managment” and “face-to-face management” - hands-on disempowers.

]]> By: Alastair Seagroatt http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11144 Alastair Seagroatt Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:34:12 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11144 I find this whole subject interesting - how much should folk be appointed to do things or given tasks and then allowed to get on with it, as you have trusted them with that responsibility and deemed them capable of it? Meanwhile you take the flack if things go pear shaped because you made the decision to think they were capable of performing the task(s), but then how much better do you all grow for working with that level of trust? So are we then into a no-blame type of culture here, with progress reports, reviews etc becoming more important than 'hands on' management? I think your 'shop floor' visits already go towards this way of doing things. Alastair I find this whole subject interesting - how much should folk be appointed to do things or given tasks and then allowed to get on with it, as you have trusted them with that responsibility and deemed them capable of it?

Meanwhile you take the flack if things go pear shaped because you made the decision to think they were capable of performing the task(s), but then how much better do you all grow for working with that level of trust?

So are we then into a no-blame type of culture here, with progress reports, reviews etc becoming more important than ‘hands on’ management?

I think your ’shop floor’ visits already go towards this way of doing things.

Alastair

]]> By: Andrea http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11143 Andrea Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:48:26 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11143 "Taking action, to which they are probably addicted" I think this is a particularly telling line and something I see all the time in myself especially since taking on another role instead of HT. The biggest adustment I'm having to make is to resist constantly the need to do tasks (most of which make no difference anyway) all the time, instead of talk and reflect and empower real change! It's the easiest thing in the world to jump in and take action and sort things out. But what an internal battle I've been having recently with this, hopefully I'll beat myself into submission and start doing things better. “Taking action, to which they are probably addicted”
I think this is a particularly telling line and something I see all the time in myself especially since taking on another role instead of HT. The biggest adustment I’m having to make is to resist constantly the need to do tasks (most of which make no difference anyway) all the time, instead of talk and reflect and empower real change! It’s the easiest thing in the world to jump in and take action and sort things out. But what an internal battle I’ve been having recently with this, hopefully I’ll beat myself into submission and start doing things better.

]]> By: Helen Francis http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11142 Helen Francis Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:33:20 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11142 This is my first time on your blog and I am particularly interested in this post. Challenging the traditional role of the manager isn't easy especially in education environments where there are pressures to get things done quickly(in my case a University). Here at Napier we are developing practice based programmes for line managers for that very reason. This is my first time on your blog and I am particularly interested in this post. Challenging the traditional role of the manager isn’t easy especially in education environments where there are pressures to get things done quickly(in my case a University). Here at Napier we are developing practice based programmes for line managers for that very reason.

]]> By: jackie cameron http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11138 jackie cameron Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:49:08 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/06/08/leadership-dilemma-dae-sumthin-or-dae-it-different/#comment-11138 Can I suggest that any new manager - as well as "daeing it different" - actually considers "being" different? It is my experience that the best managers are true to themselves. There will be constraints in any role. What you bring as a person can make an enormous difference! Can I suggest that any new manager - as well as “daeing it different” - actually considers “being” different? It is my experience that the best managers are true to themselves. There will be constraints in any role. What you bring as a person can make an enormous difference!

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