Comments on: School Based Management 1 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/ "We learn from our experience.....if we reflect upon our experience" John Dewey Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:18:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Don Ledingham http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10954 Don Ledingham Sun, 18 May 2008 08:27:22 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10954 Hilery/Jane You raise legitimate concerns, that's why the system must be designed to ensure that such things don't happen.I'll be setting out some ideas over the next few posts. Don Hilery/Jane

You raise legitimate concerns, that’s why the system must be designed to ensure that such things don’t happen.I’ll be setting out some ideas over the next few posts.

Don

]]> By: Jane Peterson http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10943 Jane Peterson Fri, 16 May 2008 09:27:55 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10943 What a terrifying idea! Does this mean that teachers would no longer have job security and would have to vie desperately with one another to work the longest hours, engineer the highest marks and have the fewest exclusions for fear of being sacked or as you put it 'replaced by another service provider'? (I'm not saying I don't have the highest ideals here.) One of the most liberating things about working in a vocational field is the 'we're all in this together and stiving for excellence' ethos. I hate the idea of schools being sort of private community entities, to me it sounds rather like those other disasterous privatisation ideas we've had over the last couple of decades....energy, rail infrastructure, hospitals etc. Oh dear, dare I disagree with you? Perhaps I'd better not submit my comment. Oh what the hell... What a terrifying idea! Does this mean that teachers would no longer have job security and would have to vie desperately with one another to work the longest hours, engineer the highest marks and have the fewest exclusions for fear of being sacked or as you put it ‘replaced by another service provider’? (I’m not saying I don’t have the highest ideals here.) One of the most liberating things about working in a vocational field is the ‘we’re all in this together and stiving for excellence’ ethos. I hate the idea of schools being sort of private community entities, to me it sounds rather like those other disasterous privatisation ideas we’ve had over the last couple of decades….energy, rail infrastructure, hospitals etc.
Oh dear, dare I disagree with you? Perhaps I’d better not submit my comment. Oh what the hell…

]]> By: Hilery Williams http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10941 Hilery Williams Fri, 16 May 2008 08:08:10 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10941 Devolved provision impacts negatively on children who experience difficulties at school, especiaslly those whose parents do not ask for support. Do you envisage those with ASN being granted more 'credit' than academically more successful pupils? If so, how will that be measured? If not, then their learning needs may well be overlooked. Support for Leaning teachers' time is being reduced or dispensed with entirely as we speak. If individual schools were responsible for all education provision, it is likely that in some cases the 'Matthew effect' will take place: The rich get richer while the poor get poorer. Devolved provision impacts negatively on children who experience difficulties at school, especiaslly those whose parents do not ask for support.
Do you envisage those with ASN being granted more ‘credit’ than academically more successful pupils? If so, how will that be measured? If not, then their learning needs may well be overlooked.
Support for Leaning teachers’ time is being reduced or dispensed with entirely as we speak. If individual schools were responsible for all education provision, it is likely that in some cases the ‘Matthew effect’ will take place: The rich get richer while the poor get poorer.

]]> By: Andrea http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10938 Andrea Thu, 15 May 2008 20:36:43 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2008/05/15/could-we-do-it/#comment-10938 Of course we could do it, or something with aspects of this. The thing is though that the current system suits many - particularly those within it - start changing or even discussing ideas like this and it can be threatening to those who complain the most about them and us and how bad things are. Make changes for the better and there are no longer legitimate reasons for complaining...And despite my Pollyanaesque view of the world, I'm well aware that systems have bred this kind of blame culture which sadly sometimes seems to be self perpetuating and those who cry blame the loudest are the ones who want real change least. Of course we could do it, or something with aspects of this. The thing is though that the current system suits many - particularly those within it - start changing or even discussing ideas like this and it can be threatening to those who complain the most about them and us and how bad things are. Make changes for the better and there are no longer legitimate reasons for complaining…And despite my Pollyanaesque view of the world, I’m well aware that systems have bred this kind of blame culture which sadly sometimes seems to be self perpetuating and those who cry blame the loudest are the ones who want real change least.

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