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	<title>Comments on: Leadership Dilemma 3 - Public Service and Web 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: MotherSoup</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/10/leadership-dilemma-3-public-service-and-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-9162</link>
		<dc:creator>MotherSoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don - thanks for your answer - I'll comment about your customer services thoughts up in those postings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don - thanks for your answer - I&#8217;ll comment about your customer services thoughts up in those postings.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Ledingham</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/10/leadership-dilemma-3-public-service-and-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-9128</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ledingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ewan

You're right - we have got things in place, we just need to make sure we implement them consistently.

MS 

It's great to have you as part of our community - you are having an influence. We are certainly trying to be positive rather than restrictive - hopefully that underpins everything we do on Edubuzz. We do, however, need to provide more guidance to users about our 'netiquette'

As regards the dilemma - there are some occasions, such as the hypothetical situation above, where certain things that might be being done by the school or the authority to improve a situation cannot be shared with parents due to rights of the employee for confidentiality.  Nevertheless, we should be exploring as many ways as possible of making parents aware of our priorities and building the necessary trust that we will deal with situations in schools with sensitivity for the person involved, whilst not being prepared to sacrifice the quality of education that children are receiving. My hope here would be that no parent would feel it necessary, regardless of acceptable use policies, to post a comment about a teacher in desperation because nothing was apparently being about it by the school. This has to be our goal.

Hopefully conversations such as this can help to build that shared understanding. 

I wonder how you feel about the question I posed in the next post about seeing parents as customers.  Do you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewan</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right - we have got things in place, we just need to make sure we implement them consistently.</p>
<p>MS </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great to have you as part of our community - you are having an influence. We are certainly trying to be positive rather than restrictive - hopefully that underpins everything we do on Edubuzz. We do, however, need to provide more guidance to users about our &#8216;netiquette&#8217;</p>
<p>As regards the dilemma - there are some occasions, such as the hypothetical situation above, where certain things that might be being done by the school or the authority to improve a situation cannot be shared with parents due to rights of the employee for confidentiality.  Nevertheless, we should be exploring as many ways as possible of making parents aware of our priorities and building the necessary trust that we will deal with situations in schools with sensitivity for the person involved, whilst not being prepared to sacrifice the quality of education that children are receiving. My hope here would be that no parent would feel it necessary, regardless of acceptable use policies, to post a comment about a teacher in desperation because nothing was apparently being about it by the school. This has to be our goal.</p>
<p>Hopefully conversations such as this can help to build that shared understanding. </p>
<p>I wonder how you feel about the question I posed in the next post about seeing parents as customers.  Do you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: teaching Scout &#124; if you could give me one piece of advice - what would it be?</title>
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		<dc:creator>teaching Scout &#124; if you could give me one piece of advice - what would it be?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stuart Meldrum posted this simple question a few months back as did Don Ledingham with his &#8216;Leadership Dilemas&#8217; and both generated response related to their own learning. In a similiar way I would like to bring [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stuart Meldrum posted this simple question a few months back as did Don Ledingham with his &#8216;Leadership Dilemas&#8217; and both generated response related to their own learning. In a similiar way I would like to bring [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Let us Now Praise Famous Teachers* at MotherSoup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let us Now Praise Famous Teachers* at MotherSoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who might read these parent blogs. This week, Don Ledingham has been considering a hypothetical dilemma involving parents using these blogs to criticise [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] who might read these parent blogs. This week, Don Ledingham has been considering a hypothetical dilemma involving parents using these blogs to criticise [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MotherSoup</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/10/leadership-dilemma-3-public-service-and-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-9119</link>
		<dc:creator>MotherSoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only started my parent blog last week - I guess I may be the newest user in this category. I have found everyone who has commented and who has emailed me to be unfailingly supportive and constructive, but I was surprised that I received no guidance on policy and general 'netiquette' for this community. I can't think of another online community/yahoo group/whatever where this has not happened, and I've been in quite a few over the last eight years. I would hope it would be possible to produce something that felt positive - rather than just restrictive - for new users.

But looking back to Don's original post - the parents would not be posting as they are if they did not feel frustrated by their situation and thwarted in their attempts to deal with it. They don't seem to have found a way to solve their problems through other channels. Dealing with the blog postings is the short-term solution. Where can they find a way towards a longer-term resolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only started my parent blog last week - I guess I may be the newest user in this category. I have found everyone who has commented and who has emailed me to be unfailingly supportive and constructive, but I was surprised that I received no guidance on policy and general &#8216;netiquette&#8217; for this community. I can&#8217;t think of another online community/yahoo group/whatever where this has not happened, and I&#8217;ve been in quite a few over the last eight years. I would hope it would be possible to produce something that felt positive - rather than just restrictive - for new users.</p>
<p>But looking back to Don&#8217;s original post - the parents would not be posting as they are if they did not feel frustrated by their situation and thwarted in their attempts to deal with it. They don&#8217;t seem to have found a way to solve their problems through other channels. Dealing with the blog postings is the short-term solution. Where can they find a way towards a longer-term resolution?</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan McIntosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewan McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The existing 'guidelines' that have been in place for a year have made sure that, contrary to 'Reader's' thoughts, it hasn't come up that often. However, we've also had more staff and students using the WPMU system who have already had the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) thrown at them ;-)

With parents, and I think Guineapig Mum's "AUP?" question sums this up, we need to be very explicit and very simple. Acceptance needs made at the point of blog creation (as it is with every commercial blog platform) and then, as platform owner, it is down to ELC to respond within 48 hours to any potentially libelous (or, in the case of podcasts, slanderous) claims. That might mean editing the entry and sending an email to the blog owner, or it might be temporarily disabling the blog.

From my point of view, for what it's worth, I think ELC has all the elements in place, but now needs to make it an integral part of signing up to the system. The traditional AUP covers the main legal points, and the guidelines cover the more messy side of the social medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The existing &#8216;guidelines&#8217; that have been in place for a year have made sure that, contrary to &#8216;Reader&#8217;s&#8217; thoughts, it hasn&#8217;t come up that often. However, we&#8217;ve also had more staff and students using the WPMU system who have already had the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) thrown at them <img src='http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>With parents, and I think Guineapig Mum&#8217;s &#8220;AUP?&#8221; question sums this up, we need to be very explicit and very simple. Acceptance needs made at the point of blog creation (as it is with every commercial blog platform) and then, as platform owner, it is down to ELC to respond within 48 hours to any potentially libelous (or, in the case of podcasts, slanderous) claims. That might mean editing the entry and sending an email to the blog owner, or it might be temporarily disabling the blog.</p>
<p>From my point of view, for what it&#8217;s worth, I think ELC has all the elements in place, but now needs to make it an integral part of signing up to the system. The traditional AUP covers the main legal points, and the guidelines cover the more messy side of the social medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;s Learning Log &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Children and parents as customers?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;s Learning Log &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Children and parents as customers?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comments Don Ledingham on Leadership Dilemma 3 - Public Service and Web 2.0Don Ledingham on Stir Crazyguineapigmum on Leadership Dilemma 3 - Public Service and Web [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don Ledingham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Ledingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all who have suggested a solution. 

I think we want to be as open as possible but an AUP (acceptable use policy) would be worth putting together - parents definitely have role here to shape this for their peers.  I'm going to make some other posts on issues which have emerged from this dilemma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all who have suggested a solution. </p>
<p>I think we want to be as open as possible but an AUP (acceptable use policy) would be worth putting together - parents definitely have role here to shape this for their peers.  I&#8217;m going to make some other posts on issues which have emerged from this dilemma.</p>
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		<title>By: guineapigmum</title>
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		<dc:creator>guineapigmum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This could be a tricky one.  I've tried quite hard with my blog not to put staff names in, but it can be difficult to avoid making an individual identifiable without making a post totally vacuous. I also don't like posting, emailing or phoning as an angry response as words are so difficult to take back, so, with blog posts and responses to comments I will generally wait a few days before committing to publication. However, I can see already that with more parents posting about school matters there is a desire to empathise with generic situations! I would think that some sort of acceptance policy for seting up a blog might be a good idea, although this would only control posts, not comments.  Bear in mind that most parents who are thinking about blogging won't want to put their children in an awkward position at school. 

And, er, what's an AUP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be a tricky one.  I&#8217;ve tried quite hard with my blog not to put staff names in, but it can be difficult to avoid making an individual identifiable without making a post totally vacuous. I also don&#8217;t like posting, emailing or phoning as an angry response as words are so difficult to take back, so, with blog posts and responses to comments I will generally wait a few days before committing to publication. However, I can see already that with more parents posting about school matters there is a desire to empathise with generic situations! I would think that some sort of acceptance policy for seting up a blog might be a good idea, although this would only control posts, not comments.  Bear in mind that most parents who are thinking about blogging won&#8217;t want to put their children in an awkward position at school. </p>
<p>And, er, what&#8217;s an AUP?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think our AUP is the most important element here. I wonder however if we should have some form of electronic acceptance of the policy when blogs are created?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think our AUP is the most important element here. I wonder however if we should have some form of electronic acceptance of the policy when blogs are created?</p>
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