Comments on: All this for £169 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/ "We learn from our experience.....if we reflect upon our experience" John Dewey Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:04:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Robert Jones http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9100 Robert Jones Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:08:05 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9100 As you know Don, I'm very excited about the prospect of trying these machines out at school. Interesting what Ian has to say about build quality - clearly that's a big consideration. Terry - clearly we can't put the commercial, closed source windows software that we use in schools onto these wee machines. But that doesn't matter. No one is suggesting that we are going to bin all our desktops and use these things exclusively. What matters is whether or not the provision of these devices to pupils on a 1-2-1 basis has the potential to enhance learning and teaching. I would like to think that the answer is yes, but only if we deploy them in a planned, thoughtful manner, rather than the old "spray and pray". Ian's project points the way. [I was tempted to call it a pilot Ian, just to wind you up, but thought better of it ;)] As you know Don, I’m very excited about the prospect of trying these machines out at school.

Interesting what Ian has to say about build quality - clearly that’s a big consideration.

Terry - clearly we can’t put the commercial, closed source windows software that we use in schools onto these wee machines. But that doesn’t matter. No one is suggesting that we are going to bin all our desktops and use these things exclusively. What matters is whether or not the provision of these devices to pupils on a 1-2-1 basis has the potential to enhance learning and teaching. I would like to think that the answer is yes, but only if we deploy them in a planned, thoughtful manner, rather than the old “spray and pray”. Ian’s project points the way. [I was tempted to call it a pilot Ian, just to wind you up, but thought better of it ;)]

]]> By: Ian Stuart http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9095 Ian Stuart Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:45:33 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9095 Don The 7" screens are not an issue. We use <a href="http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/mobilecomputing/ultramobile/np_q1_v000suk.asp" rel="nofollow">Samsung Q1</a> UMPC's. We checked it out with local opthalmists and and Glasgow Eye hospital. They concluded if anyone feels any effects while using the 7" screen then the problem is with the eye not the screen and should get their eyes seen too. Have played with the device for a short time, the problem is the build quality. How long they will last. This was an issue for us as we wanted the pupils to take devices home. May not be an issue if they are used in a classroom situation. Don
The 7″ screens are not an issue. We use Samsung Q1 UMPC’s.
We checked it out with local opthalmists and and Glasgow Eye hospital. They concluded if anyone feels any effects while using the 7″ screen then the problem is with the eye not the screen and should get their eyes seen too.
Have played with the device for a short time, the problem is the build quality. How long they will last. This was an issue for us as we wanted the pupils to take devices home. May not be an issue if they are used in a classroom situation.

]]> By: Don Ledingham http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9068 Don Ledingham Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:41:23 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9068 That's human nature for you! That’s human nature for you!

]]> By: Terry Brown http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9065 Terry Brown Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:06:18 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9065 I like the 'most people' part ;-) I like the ‘most people’ part ;-)

]]> By: Don Ledingham http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9064 Don Ledingham Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:51:11 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9064 Thanks Terry - it's good to get the perspective of someone who has to sort out all the problems. I think most people appreciate the support they get from your team. Thanks Terry - it’s good to get the perspective of someone who has to sort out all the problems. I think most people appreciate the support they get from your team.

]]> By: Terry Brown http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9063 Terry Brown Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:38:54 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9063 As one of the ICT Officers I can see the benefits of this type of laptop. Having linux on it may be good, but trying to get all of the software we use in the schools could be difficult :-) The tabs would be very useful, only getting certain applications on these tabs would cut down in incidents called in to the helpdesk and would hopefully make the laptops available all of the time. The price sounds good too, a cabnet of these in a school would certainly save a lot of someones budget! As one of the ICT Officers I can see the benefits of this type of laptop.

Having linux on it may be good, but trying to get all of the software we use in the schools could be difficult :-)

The tabs would be very useful, only getting certain applications on these tabs would cut down in incidents called in to the helpdesk and would hopefully make the laptops available all of the time.

The price sounds good too, a cabnet of these in a school would certainly save a lot of someones budget!

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]]> By: M Tennant http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9055 M Tennant Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:17:06 +0000 http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/11/08/all-this-for-169/#comment-9055 Don, This is certainly a step in the right direction, although I don't know how long it would take to get fed up of peering at a 7" screen. Certainly the weight combined with the solid state storage are attractive and point the way to future devices - I'm constantly amazed how little flash memory costs nowadays. Interesting also the way linux is slowly making inroads into education products. Open source software could offer huge savings to education authorities, and is fast becoming a real alternative to commercial packages. (tech speak over!!) Hope the back is on the mend!! Mark. Don,

This is certainly a step in the right direction, although I don’t know how long it would take to get fed up of peering at a 7″ screen. Certainly the weight combined with the solid state storage are attractive and point the way to future devices - I’m constantly amazed how little flash memory costs nowadays. Interesting also the way linux is slowly making inroads into education products. Open source software could offer huge savings to education authorities, and is fast becoming a real alternative to commercial packages. (tech speak over!!)

Hope the back is on the mend!!

Mark.

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