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	<description>"We learn from our experience.....if we reflect upon our experience" John Dewey</description>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8775</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenny

Send in your application to kmcrae@eastlothin.gov.uk

Andrew 

Sorry it's only open to East Lothian teachers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny</p>
<p>Send in your application to <a href="mailto:kmcrae@eastlothin.gov.uk">kmcrae@eastlothin.gov.uk</a></p>
<p>Andrew </p>
<p>Sorry it&#8217;s only open to East Lothian teachers</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McNeil</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8772</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew McNeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes..good idea...but would need supply for me in Fife but would be interested in the staff relationship side and CPD links and the connectedness you mention...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes..good idea&#8230;but would need supply for me in Fife but would be interested in the staff relationship side and CPD links and the connectedness you mention&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny MacNair</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8764</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny MacNair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, I would be very interested in shadowing you for a day. I think it would be of great interest to see a "a day in the life of the director of education." Having had various inputs last year from yoursellf as a probationer I feel that it would be of interest to see what influences your thoughts and actions and also your reflections on your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I would be very interested in shadowing you for a day. I think it would be of great interest to see a &#8220;a day in the life of the director of education.&#8221; Having had various inputs last year from yoursellf as a probationer I feel that it would be of interest to see what influences your thoughts and actions and also your reflections on your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Charli Russell</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8763</link>
		<dc:creator>Charli Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,
I believe it is essential to have this type of experience. I particularly like the fact that you talk about 'setting out your intentions'.I wonder how many teachers have lost sight of this aspect of teaching, particulalry in the secondary school, and regurgitate the same old same old year in and year out?
The culture is shifting, ablbeit it slowly, but Formative Assessment is regarded as an add on, and not an essential tool for effective learning and teaching.
Oh me it's been almost a year since I last blogged and still trying to turn the tide!
We have had peer observations and primary observations which staff, who participated, got a lot out of.
So yes, there are times when it is not only useful, but essential for us all to see and share in good practice, learn from our observations and instigate change as necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,<br />
I believe it is essential to have this type of experience. I particularly like the fact that you talk about &#8217;setting out your intentions&#8217;.I wonder how many teachers have lost sight of this aspect of teaching, particulalry in the secondary school, and regurgitate the same old same old year in and year out?<br />
The culture is shifting, ablbeit it slowly, but Formative Assessment is regarded as an add on, and not an essential tool for effective learning and teaching.<br />
Oh me it&#8217;s been almost a year since I last blogged and still trying to turn the tide!<br />
We have had peer observations and primary observations which staff, who participated, got a lot out of.<br />
So yes, there are times when it is not only useful, but essential for us all to see and share in good practice, learn from our observations and instigate change as necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mcdougall</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Mcdougall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, I like the idea of your setting out intentions and examining the degree to which they are achieved, just like teachers do with lesson plans. The interest lies in the nature and extent of possible interruptions to this plan, and how one deals with them. For teachers it may be an upset or disruptive pupil, unexpected network problems or just an over-running assembly. Your proposal suggests that you expect to have a fair degree of control over the way your day is organised. But, how often do you find that you have to deal with "left of field" events which break the "thread running through the things you do"? Of course, that would in itself, be a valid experience for your shadow to observe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I like the idea of your setting out intentions and examining the degree to which they are achieved, just like teachers do with lesson plans. The interest lies in the nature and extent of possible interruptions to this plan, and how one deals with them. For teachers it may be an upset or disruptive pupil, unexpected network problems or just an over-running assembly. Your proposal suggests that you expect to have a fair degree of control over the way your day is organised. But, how often do you find that you have to deal with &#8220;left of field&#8221; events which break the &#8220;thread running through the things you do&#8221;? Of course, that would in itself, be a valid experience for your shadow to observe.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Coe</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8760</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothy Coe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was shadowing &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; Director of Education for a day, I'd be interested to observe the quality and effectiveness of his interactions with others in terms of our improvement plan for the Authority. Maybe this paraphrases your first point, Don. 

But I think it might be difficult for someone observing for a day to see connectedness that might be obvious to you, with your intimate knowledge of the projects in which you are involved. But perhaps the same is true for someone who visits a class for just a short time on one day? I agree with Kenneth that a class teacher reflecting on your observations of the work of another class teacher, and the discussions that followed from it would certainly be fascinating for all of you.

One further point...I think that someone visiting a school would get an honest, straightforward and illuminating response from the children to whom they talk. I wonder how far that would be true of the adults with whom a Director works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was shadowing <i>my</i> Director of Education for a day, I&#8217;d be interested to observe the quality and effectiveness of his interactions with others in terms of our improvement plan for the Authority. Maybe this paraphrases your first point, Don. </p>
<p>But I think it might be difficult for someone observing for a day to see connectedness that might be obvious to you, with your intimate knowledge of the projects in which you are involved. But perhaps the same is true for someone who visits a class for just a short time on one day? I agree with Kenneth that a class teacher reflecting on your observations of the work of another class teacher, and the discussions that followed from it would certainly be fascinating for all of you.</p>
<p>One further point&#8230;I think that someone visiting a school would get an honest, straightforward and illuminating response from the children to whom they talk. I wonder how far that would be true of the adults with whom a Director works?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenneth

Thanks for your very helpful comment.

I think I would like the observer to focus on extent to which my behaviour is consistent with the &lt;a href="http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/01/14/imagining-a-culture/" rel="nofollow"&gt;culture&lt;/a&gt; to which we aspire.  It would also be useful if the person could look at the degree connectedness (see &lt;a href="http://www.infed.org/thinkers/senge.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;systems thinking&lt;/a&gt;) between the various things I am involved in during the day, i.e. is there thread running through the things I do which link to improving our service - I would hope there is as opposed to a series of discrete events.

Perhaps we could start the day with me setting out my intentions for each part of my day and the observer could consider the extent to which these intentions were achieved?

What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth</p>
<p>Thanks for your very helpful comment.</p>
<p>I think I would like the observer to focus on extent to which my behaviour is consistent with the <a href="http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/01/14/imagining-a-culture/" rel="nofollow">culture</a> to which we aspire.  It would also be useful if the person could look at the degree connectedness (see <a href="http://www.infed.org/thinkers/senge.htm" rel="nofollow">systems thinking</a>) between the various things I am involved in during the day, i.e. is there thread running through the things I do which link to improving our service - I would hope there is as opposed to a series of discrete events.</p>
<p>Perhaps we could start the day with me setting out my intentions for each part of my day and the observer could consider the extent to which these intentions were achieved?</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: oldandrew</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8755</link>
		<dc:creator>oldandrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've not read that book, although I think I've read a couple of Michael Fullan's books and not been impressed.

The best book on how to improve and run a school is "Laying Down The Law" by Joe Clark. Be warned it's many years out of print and may never have been published in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not read that book, although I think I&#8217;ve read a couple of Michael Fullan&#8217;s books and not been impressed.</p>
<p>The best book on how to improve and run a school is &#8220;Laying Down The Law&#8221; by Joe Clark. Be warned it&#8217;s many years out of print and may never have been published in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mcdougall</title>
		<link>http://edubuzz.org/blogs/donsblog/2007/09/20/reverse-observation/#comment-8752</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Mcdougall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a very commendable idea, Don. I do agree with Kenneth's point about what you want the teacher to be looking for, and I assume it would need to be a day when you were not dealing with sensitive staffing or parental matters. As Director of Education, your visits to schools help inform your awareness of teaching and learning in the classroom; in what way would the reciprocal visit by teachers do likewise? Would participating in team-teaching in the school you are visiting perhaps be an alternative way? easy for me to say-I live in Glasgow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a very commendable idea, Don. I do agree with Kenneth&#8217;s point about what you want the teacher to be looking for, and I assume it would need to be a day when you were not dealing with sensitive staffing or parental matters. As Director of Education, your visits to schools help inform your awareness of teaching and learning in the classroom; in what way would the reciprocal visit by teachers do likewise? Would participating in team-teaching in the school you are visiting perhaps be an alternative way? easy for me to say-I live in Glasgow!</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've omitted a crucial aspect! Your visits focus "&lt;i&gt;upon the quality of the learning task set by the teacher.&lt;/i&gt;" What will the teachers visit to you focus on?

How well you chair a meeting? How quickly you read a draft proposal? How many emails you reply to in a day?

I think you know what evidence you're looking for when you visit the classroom but does a class teacher know what to look for in your office/workspace?

Alternatively why not have the teacher shadow you on a visit to one of the three schools. A bit like an external examiner on a Tutor "crit" Visit. They would be there to assess your judgment of the observation. With this joint observation both parties (yourself and the teacher) are on common ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve omitted a crucial aspect! Your visits focus &#8220;<i>upon the quality of the learning task set by the teacher.</i>&#8221; What will the teachers visit to you focus on?</p>
<p>How well you chair a meeting? How quickly you read a draft proposal? How many emails you reply to in a day?</p>
<p>I think you know what evidence you&#8217;re looking for when you visit the classroom but does a class teacher know what to look for in your office/workspace?</p>
<p>Alternatively why not have the teacher shadow you on a visit to one of the three schools. A bit like an external examiner on a Tutor &#8220;crit&#8221; Visit. They would be there to assess your judgment of the observation. With this joint observation both parties (yourself and the teacher) are on common ground.</p>
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