Higher Prelim Revision Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve been sitting by my computer now since 7.30pm. I’m off to chill for 45 mins. I’ll be back around 9.30pm to help anyone that needs it.

41 Responses to “Higher Prelim Revision Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”


  1. 1 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 9:06 pm

    Hi Mr S. I’ve just about finished my revision. The only question I’ve had real trouble with is one i found, don’t ask how at http://www.invergordon.highland.sch.uk/departments/maths/higher/homework/set1/mixed1.pdf. Its the differentication question 2. Its similar to question 5 on prelim revision 3, i didn’t have much trouble with that one but this one is tricky.

  2. 2 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 9:22 pm

    Nevermind, the link isn’t working and i think i’ve got it now, panic over

  3. 3 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 9:23 pm

    Hi sam. I’m glad to hear it. Unfortunately the link takes me nowhere. Is it definitely typed correctly? If you check it and get back to me I’ll help you out.

  4. 4 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 9:52 pm

    I’ve just realised that theres one question i was stuck on and was going to ask about- its question 4 on HW 3. I thought differentiicion but it gets me nowhere as i cant factorise it to find roots?

  5. 5 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:02 pm

    ok this may be a stupid question but when a question asks you to find the maximum and minimum values of a function what are they askin you to do?

  6. 6 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:02 pm

    For s.ps F’(x) = 0

    0=54 - 16/x^3

    multiply thorughout by x^3 to get something nicer possibly?

  7. 7 Steve-O Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:04 pm

    they want you to find the maximum and minimum values of the function .. so you find the stationary points and then find their natures to determine whether they are a max or a min. hope that helps?

  8. 8 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:05 pm

    ahhh okay thanks but if its a maximum t.p then is that the x value? so what would then be the minimum value?

  9. 9 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:05 pm

    Hey girv. Max/ min screams differentiate at me. Find the maximum and minimum turning points. I would imagine that the domain is limited (i.e. -10<x,20) and you may find your maximum or minimum values of the function at the extremities of the given domain (i.e when x = -10 or x =20).  It’s hard to say without seeing the question.  hope this is helpful.

  10. 10 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:06 pm

    ALSO, how do you work stupid geogebra without it telling me “invalid input”?

  11. 11 Steve-O Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:08 pm

    the max value of the function is the y (or f(x) ) .. then you plug your x value, u get by setting the derivative equal to zero, back into the original function to get your y co-ordinate/value.

  12. 12 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:09 pm

    Girv. rather than using y = in geogebra try F(x) =

  13. 13 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    ok yeah i get that i was getting confused and had a blonde moment. so what if it asks you for both the max and min tp and its a quadratic or if theirs only say a max tp?

  14. 14 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:12 pm

    That was easy. I was being silly and saying that x^3 times 0 = X^3. Doh! Thanks alot Mr S.

  15. 15 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:12 pm

    oh thanks mr s that works now! =]

  16. 16 Steve-O Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:13 pm

    if it’s a quadratic .. it will produce two values for x and hopefully one value of x will be the min TP and the other the max TP. If there’s only a max tp then it will most likely not ask for both a min and a max .. but just for the stationary points. sj

  17. 17 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:13 pm

    what did you get for that question sam??

  18. 18 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:14 pm

    thanks steve-o!! really not looking forward to tomorrow now…

  19. 19 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:20 pm

    Ye i think i went a bit overboard saying that it was easy- i’ve still not finished factorising the blasted thing

  20. 20 Steve-O Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:22 pm

    No problem! Don’t worry, it’ll fly by. All the best!! sj

  21. 21 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:22 pm

    hahaha did you differentiate and make it = 0 getting 54-(16/r^3)? pleeeease say you did! i then got it to r^3 = 8/27 but aint sure if its right…

  22. 22 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:28 pm

    Tis right giving r = cube root (8/27) = cube root 8/cube root 27 = 2/3. Wahey :)

  23. 23 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:29 pm

    Thats all i’ve got too- i’ve tried the polynomial division thingy with the table but i’ve got no where. Geogebra give a strange graph and this question is a nightmare.

  24. 24 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:31 pm

    Girv what were you on about before when you had a quadratic and were after a max and min value?

  25. 25 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:33 pm

    For crying out loud! Thats so easy i couldn’t see the answer.

  26. 26 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:33 pm

    oh i think i was being an idiot…hehe…okay im now doin the nature table for that question…wooooo

  27. 27 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:33 pm

    what’s easy?

  28. 28 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:34 pm

    my nature tables makes one think that i have found a stationary point not a turning point =[ this makes me sad.

  29. 29 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:35 pm

    i meant a point of inflexion!

  30. 30 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:37 pm

    If I was sitting my higher prelim I’d be so excited. I can’t believe you’re not looking forward to it Girv. I don’t know, the youth of today. When I was a lad… blah blah blah…..

    I’m sure you will all do the best you can. I’m off to make a cup of hot chocolate. I think it’s probably a good time for you all to stop revising and get a good nights sleep. it will probably benefit you far more thatn sitting up all night revising. I’ll come back in 5 minutes to answer last questions then I’m off to bed.

  31. 31 Samuel Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:42 pm

    I thought i had the answer, maybe i don’t, i thought it was (2/3,54) but maybe i got it wrong. Nevermind. Good luck Girv and thanks Mr S.

  32. 32 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:42 pm

    okay..my last question is

    The cost of laying a pipeline…

    oh never mind.

    i’m off to cry myself to sleep!

    no i’m not really and why on earth would i be excited to sit on an uncomfortable chair in a hall doing maths on a squeaky desk for however long it is! i don’t know…

    byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  33. 33 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    Hi Girv. Remember a radius cannot be zero or so if you’ve used zero to evaluate c’(r) it will yield a false result for you. try 1/8 or another fraction smaller than 2/3

  34. 34 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    I GOT THAT TOO SAM! that makes me happy! but i cant be bleeped and am going to bed now…good luck too!

  35. 35 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:44 pm

    Glad to hear that’s it for the night.

    byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  36. 36 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:44 pm

    ugh you’re kidding. oh well never mind…

  37. 37 girv Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:45 pm

    ugh you’re kidding. oh well never mind…also now every time i post a comment (which i have done a lot of tonight) i have tot ype in a wee code thing…suspicious..

  38. 38 Craig Stebbing Nov 27th, 2006 at 10:46 pm

    Girv. I’ll edit the expletive from your last comment for you :)

  39. 39 callum b Nov 28th, 2006 at 8:02 pm

    I think closing down this blog would be a good idea
    and I also think that the comments order has been switched or it could just be me.

  40. 40 Craig Stebbing Nov 28th, 2006 at 8:03 pm

    This post or the whole blog Callum?

  41. 41 Education Team Feb 8th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    RevisionWorld http://www.revisionworld.co.uk has just uploaded some free videos onto its site for a whole range of maths questions. I hope these are useful.

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